What happens to time to make it a large dimension?
What are branes? What happens if we consider them as aggregates of strings? How does that interact with the 0-brane?
If we consider time and space, in other words dimensionality in general, as constructed of strings then what is the 'background' or backdrop in which they exist? That's much like asking what a quark is without a String Theory to describe it. We haven't pushed back that far yet. Take the description of dimensionality, spacetime, and use that to probe deeper. Imagining that branes, dimensionality beyond the single dimensional string, are composed of strings is much more satisfying than accepting them as some additional elementary constituent that arises from nothing and nowhere.
On holography... if the holographic universe is a valid theory, and the pair of 3branes bound by a single dimension is a valid theory of creation then the universe as we know it, regular matter, is a tiny almond within a giant shell. And still it would seem to be that the brane is unreachable to us, exiting in a different mode than we do.
Enough half-informed physical ponderings. I've work to get ready for.
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Wednesday, October 30, 2013
Monday, October 21, 2013
An Experiment in communicating with the past
Edit note: Okay, this has been draft for a couple days and I'm done caring about making it pretty. Just a quick edit through for logical cohesion and grammar then done.
Just listened to the description of the dual slit delayed choice quantum eraser experiment. It occurs to me that this is a fascinating effect. Consider this: Take the down converters as described in in the book and send the idle photons down a loop or path long enough to delay their arrival at the subsequent series of detectors by a day or just a couple of seconds but spatially separated such that the two parts of the experiment cannot observe each other to make the experiment more technically feasible.
Rig three idle photon detectors. One for each path and one to accumulate both (I think this minor alteration of the experiment as described would still work since you wouldn't be able to glean path information from the accumulated photons though clearly this wrinkle can be ironed out to exactly match the delayed choice experiment)(a tangential question is would the accumulative detector display an interference pattern)
Set up a splitter on each incoming stream such that you can control the path of both streams to simultaneously either be detected with path information or detected indeterminately.
Now send you photons down the experiment in sets. However many photons are required to conclusively display an interference pattern or lack of one, send them in sets of that many with enough rest time between to easily differentiate the sets when analyzing the data. Presumably there doesn't need to be much separation between individual photons as we aren't concerned with confirming that they act like waves individually. We just want to see if they're acting like waves or like particles for any given set of events.
Analyze each set for a series of binary information based on the presence or absence of an interference pattern (wave or particle interactions).
The next day, or however long your delay loop is, or in the next room depending on the technical level of your experiment your associate who has not been compromised with the data acquired previously comes in and using the splitter control coerces the idle photons to create the binary data you received yesterday.
Would that really work? Can I send myself the lotto numbers? And, would that be illegal? >.>
This also all depends on my understanding that these experiments do not require vacuum. Which is to say that the probability wave doesn't collapse until a human observer looks at it (if any particle interaction counts as an observation then the whole quantum eraser experiment ceases to make sense to me since both the 'eraser' and the initial polarizing are clearly interactions with the particles).
This is also an interesting consideration when remembering that light, due to its speed through space, is not moving through time. Technically the photons that reach each experimenter are the same age and so trying to decide if we would actually send information into the past makes my head hurt.
Just listened to the description of the dual slit delayed choice quantum eraser experiment. It occurs to me that this is a fascinating effect. Consider this: Take the down converters as described in in the book and send the idle photons down a loop or path long enough to delay their arrival at the subsequent series of detectors by a day or just a couple of seconds but spatially separated such that the two parts of the experiment cannot observe each other to make the experiment more technically feasible.
Rig three idle photon detectors. One for each path and one to accumulate both (I think this minor alteration of the experiment as described would still work since you wouldn't be able to glean path information from the accumulated photons though clearly this wrinkle can be ironed out to exactly match the delayed choice experiment)(a tangential question is would the accumulative detector display an interference pattern)
Set up a splitter on each incoming stream such that you can control the path of both streams to simultaneously either be detected with path information or detected indeterminately.
Now send you photons down the experiment in sets. However many photons are required to conclusively display an interference pattern or lack of one, send them in sets of that many with enough rest time between to easily differentiate the sets when analyzing the data. Presumably there doesn't need to be much separation between individual photons as we aren't concerned with confirming that they act like waves individually. We just want to see if they're acting like waves or like particles for any given set of events.
Analyze each set for a series of binary information based on the presence or absence of an interference pattern (wave or particle interactions).
The next day, or however long your delay loop is, or in the next room depending on the technical level of your experiment your associate who has not been compromised with the data acquired previously comes in and using the splitter control coerces the idle photons to create the binary data you received yesterday.
Would that really work? Can I send myself the lotto numbers? And, would that be illegal? >.>
This also all depends on my understanding that these experiments do not require vacuum. Which is to say that the probability wave doesn't collapse until a human observer looks at it (if any particle interaction counts as an observation then the whole quantum eraser experiment ceases to make sense to me since both the 'eraser' and the initial polarizing are clearly interactions with the particles).
This is also an interesting consideration when remembering that light, due to its speed through space, is not moving through time. Technically the photons that reach each experimenter are the same age and so trying to decide if we would actually send information into the past makes my head hurt.
Wednesday, October 16, 2013
Continuing problems with Time
Further confused rumination about time and quantum probability waves. I don't understand how it's possible to have a universe-wide probability wave for a particle with mass. Not in the sense of instantly collapsing the wave to a point, as described in the book, but in the sense that it's supposed to be impossible for a particle to travel faster than light. Which means that a particle's probability wave must be bounded by the speed of light. It's not enough to say that the probability approaches 0 at a radius in space-time defined by how far light can travel, it should be 0. Otherwise we've broken Relativity, or something.
If I understand it all correctly to say that a particle has a 2^-500 chance of appearing some number of light years away from here in the next few seconds is tantamount to saying that it has that much chance of traveling backwards in time. Which might be a miniscule probability but the universe has a disgustingly large number of particles. So many that even tiny probabilities must occur some number of times. I'm not a mathematician and I'm not going to try and figure out hard numbers. Unless the notion of quantum probability has been described incorrectly in the book it just doesn't mesh with Relativity. Then again... I think that's sort of the point to current theoretical physics isn't it? >.>
(Note: This post is slightly out out of order, it sat as a draft for a week or more)
If I understand it all correctly to say that a particle has a 2^-500 chance of appearing some number of light years away from here in the next few seconds is tantamount to saying that it has that much chance of traveling backwards in time. Which might be a miniscule probability but the universe has a disgustingly large number of particles. So many that even tiny probabilities must occur some number of times. I'm not a mathematician and I'm not going to try and figure out hard numbers. Unless the notion of quantum probability has been described incorrectly in the book it just doesn't mesh with Relativity. Then again... I think that's sort of the point to current theoretical physics isn't it? >.>
(Note: This post is slightly out out of order, it sat as a draft for a week or more)
Quantum bizzarness
The quantum eraser experiment is friggin' weird.
Up until those results it was possible to take 'observation' to be any interaction between particles. Thus most of the weirdness of quantum mechanics is actually not terribly weird. Everything is a probability wave until it interacts with something else's probability wave (where the two waves peak together, presumably), at which point both waves collapse into particles (or fields, or whatever), do their interacting business, and depart again as waves.
The quantum eraser makes mincemeat of the notion. Using the traditional dual slit experiment but polarizing the light differently for each slit eliminates the interference pattern if the detecting medium can detect the polarization. That's in line with the above in that the probability wave is collapsed by the interaction with the polarizing element. But if you subsequently polarize both streams of light in the same way, thus making the streams indistinguishable again, the interference pattern returns. Which would seem to disagree with the idea above.
I'm curious if the interference pattern is identical to the pattern formed when the light goes through the entire process unpolarized and I'm also curious what occurs if the detecting medium is unable to detect the polarization. If the assumption is that the probability only collapses when a human detects a particle then a medium which can't detect polarity should always display an interference pattern in the above experiment since no matter what you do to the polarity the streams would be indistinguishable. It's just entirely bizarre that the capacity of 'observation' should be reserved for humans (or more likely thinking beings, which leads you down the rabbit hole of what qualifies as thinking). It's intuitively reasonable, to me at least, to describe 'observation' that collapses a probability wave as any interaction between particles but it makes no sense to ascribe that capability only to conscious thought. Here's to hoping this is considered more thoroughly later in the book.
Up until those results it was possible to take 'observation' to be any interaction between particles. Thus most of the weirdness of quantum mechanics is actually not terribly weird. Everything is a probability wave until it interacts with something else's probability wave (where the two waves peak together, presumably), at which point both waves collapse into particles (or fields, or whatever), do their interacting business, and depart again as waves.
The quantum eraser makes mincemeat of the notion. Using the traditional dual slit experiment but polarizing the light differently for each slit eliminates the interference pattern if the detecting medium can detect the polarization. That's in line with the above in that the probability wave is collapsed by the interaction with the polarizing element. But if you subsequently polarize both streams of light in the same way, thus making the streams indistinguishable again, the interference pattern returns. Which would seem to disagree with the idea above.
I'm curious if the interference pattern is identical to the pattern formed when the light goes through the entire process unpolarized and I'm also curious what occurs if the detecting medium is unable to detect the polarization. If the assumption is that the probability only collapses when a human detects a particle then a medium which can't detect polarity should always display an interference pattern in the above experiment since no matter what you do to the polarity the streams would be indistinguishable. It's just entirely bizarre that the capacity of 'observation' should be reserved for humans (or more likely thinking beings, which leads you down the rabbit hole of what qualifies as thinking). It's intuitively reasonable, to me at least, to describe 'observation' that collapses a probability wave as any interaction between particles but it makes no sense to ascribe that capability only to conscious thought. Here's to hoping this is considered more thoroughly later in the book.
Monday, October 7, 2013
Relativity, space, and time
Plowing through The Fabric of the Cosmos, Brian Greene, on Audible. He's just gotten through the logic describing the existence of all of relative space-time and I'm wondering now what the ramifications are of two events being close together in space-time. It's a nuanced paradigm of reality that leads to questions like 'is light the carrier of time.'
Time is warped by travel through space with the sum of travel through space and travel through time being equal to the speed of light.
Therefore photons do not age.
All of space-time exists at once, but not all frames of reference will agree on which events are concurrent.
Although the notion stated that all of space-time, that is all of space and all of time, exists simultaneously is predicated on an infinite span of space-time (infinite space and infinite time) and I'm not sure that's scientifically valid. Perhaps that comes up later.
Anyway, if photons are the only particle (or probability wave) that can travel at the speed of light (which makes the notion of a universe-wide probability wave for any other particle contradictory) then does the photon carry time? Certainly it is the harbinger of events occurring in some time through all the universe (we read the universal news from time past whenever we look to the stars). Eh. My understanding is weak.
Also pondering if the preponderance of matter (vs anti-matter) is any relation to the arrow of time. Just had the thought that if we carry that idea viewing back past the big bang does a universe of anti-matter with a reverse direction of time exist on the other side? Are our creations of anti-matter in the present somehow twisting the probability waves from that other universe and having them collapse into existence in ours? That seems a bit far fetched.
I'm also left wondering if the notion of a superposition of time is a feasible conception. Time can be relative and exist at all values in any give portion of spacetime, the loaf as Greene describes it, but can there be an observer with knowledge of every event as it happens? Obviously there's no gross physical means of doing this. Observation in the quantum sense is by necessity interaction and such observation would be impossible on that kind of scale. What would record the state of the particles making up such a universal observation machine? Unless there's some dimension that allows for interaction-free observation.
Not a physicist. Yet >.>
Time is warped by travel through space with the sum of travel through space and travel through time being equal to the speed of light.
Therefore photons do not age.
All of space-time exists at once, but not all frames of reference will agree on which events are concurrent.
Although the notion stated that all of space-time, that is all of space and all of time, exists simultaneously is predicated on an infinite span of space-time (infinite space and infinite time) and I'm not sure that's scientifically valid. Perhaps that comes up later.
Anyway, if photons are the only particle (or probability wave) that can travel at the speed of light (which makes the notion of a universe-wide probability wave for any other particle contradictory) then does the photon carry time? Certainly it is the harbinger of events occurring in some time through all the universe (we read the universal news from time past whenever we look to the stars). Eh. My understanding is weak.
Also pondering if the preponderance of matter (vs anti-matter) is any relation to the arrow of time. Just had the thought that if we carry that idea viewing back past the big bang does a universe of anti-matter with a reverse direction of time exist on the other side? Are our creations of anti-matter in the present somehow twisting the probability waves from that other universe and having them collapse into existence in ours? That seems a bit far fetched.
I'm also left wondering if the notion of a superposition of time is a feasible conception. Time can be relative and exist at all values in any give portion of spacetime, the loaf as Greene describes it, but can there be an observer with knowledge of every event as it happens? Obviously there's no gross physical means of doing this. Observation in the quantum sense is by necessity interaction and such observation would be impossible on that kind of scale. What would record the state of the particles making up such a universal observation machine? Unless there's some dimension that allows for interaction-free observation.
Not a physicist. Yet >.>
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